Using XATSHOW also as ARCHIVE

Nero does the same thing - among the many problems with Nero's built in
slide show support is that it tries to create a menu for every picture -
since VCDs are limited to 99 (I think) items - it is useless for large
scale shows.

If XATSHOW didn't configure its images to finalize the CD, you could
just burn a directory to the CD after you burned the XATSHOW image.
Maybe it is a VCD requirement to finalize the disk.

D.

_________________________________
Darwin Sanoy
Principal Consultant / Instructor
DesktopEngineer.com
WindowsInstallerTraining.com




Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:45 PM

It has been discussed before: add also the raw data of the photos to
the VCD as a way of archiving or to allow the folks you send the VCD
to, to make printouts etc.

As I have been burning als DVDs for my videos, I have upgraded my
Ulead MovieFactory to version 2. Next to the fact that you can MIX
video and slideshow on one (VCD, SVCD and DVD) disc (great) it also
allows you to ADD the raw photo data or to add a specified folder
(e.g. with all the photos or other data). This is then all burnt
together on disc. As I really like the flexibility of XATSHOW over
the ULEAD product, I want to continue using XATSHOW....

Is XATSHOW planning to add this little feature & when ??

If this will not be done in the near future - does anyone know a
suitable CD IMAGE modifier program, so you can modify e.g. the CIF
file manually (adding folders) before buring to VCD ?

The possibility to mix various video formats together with slide
show on 1 disc is a great feature - any plans by XATSHOW in this
direction & when ??

regards, Michael

[famdebraaf]

It has been discussed before: add also the raw data of the photos to
the VCD as a way of archiving or to allow the folks you send the VCD
to, to make printouts etc.

As I have been burning als DVDs for my videos, I have upgraded my
Ulead MovieFactory to version 2. Next to the fact that you can MIX
video and slideshow on one (VCD, SVCD and DVD) disc (great) it also
allows you to ADD the raw photo data or to add a specified folder
(e.g. with all the photos or other data). This is then all burnt
together on disc. As I really like the flexibility of XATSHOW over
the ULEAD product, I want to continue using XATSHOW....

Is XATSHOW planning to add this little feature & when ??

If this will not be done in the near future - does anyone know a
suitable CD IMAGE modifier program, so you can modify e.g. the CIF
file manually (adding folders) before buring to VCD ?

The possibility to mix various video formats together with slide
show on 1 disc is a great feature - any plans by XATSHOW in this
direction & when ??

regards, Michael

[brotherhug]

At 05:35 PM 4/2/2003 -0500, you wrote:

>If XATSHOW didn't configure its images to finalize the CD, you could
>just burn a directory to the CD after you burned the XATSHOW image.
>Maybe it is a VCD requirement to finalize the disk.

or perhaps you could burn the original onto a CD-RW, then burn a final
using it and adding the directory?

Doug


At 05:35 PM 4/2/2003 -0500, you wrote:

Well actually as long as the CD is not "finalized" you can do that with
a regular CD-R. You can "add on" to a regular CD-R if it is not
finalized - but there must be unwritten space available and you must be
using a "multi-session" cd reader (which most recent CD drives are) -
however, now that I think about it I'm not sure if VCD players are
consistently "multi-session".

D.
_________________________________
Darwin Sanoy
Principal Consultant / Instructor
DesktopEngineer.com
WindowsInstallerTraining.com



Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:40 PM

At 05:35 PM 4/2/2003 -0500, you wrote:



If XATSHOW didn't configure its images to finalize the CD, you could
just burn a directory to the CD after you burned the XATSHOW image.
Maybe it is a VCD requirement to finalize the disk.


or perhaps you could burn the original onto a CD-RW, then burn a final
using it and adding the directory?

Doug

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[brotherhug]

At 06:45 AM 4/3/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>I'm not sure if VCD players are consistently "multi-session".

Mine is not.

Doug

[brotherhug]

At 01:08 PM 4/4/2003 +0100, you wrote:
>The next beta will allow VCD MPEG1s to be added.

I like that one!

Doug

I hate to whine before the feature is even out - but I have my files
named uniquely so that they can always be indentified no matter where
they are located (YYYY-MM-000).

Why do they need to be renamed?

Will they retain all EXIF and ITPC data? (ie - a simple file system copy
will not remove this data - any type of jpg re-save might.)

Will full archive versions be supported in the PC Slide show as well?

D.

_________________________________
Darwin Sanoy
Principal Consultant / Instructor
DesktopEngineer.com
WindowsInstallerTraining.com




Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 7:09 AM

Hello Michael

>Is XATSHOW planning to add this little feature & when ??
Yes. The next version will allow this although images are renamed). It
will be
in the next beta.

>If this will not be done in the near future - does anyone know a
>suitable CD IMAGE modifier program, so you can modify e.g. the CIF
>file manually (adding folders) before buring to VCD ?
Some users use VCD easy to rip apart xatshow cue/bins, add stuff and
then burn
again.

>The possibility to mix various video formats together with slide
>show on 1 disc is a great feature - any plans by XATSHOW in this
The next beta will allow VCD MPEG1s to be added.

Chris.

[robingarr324]

Chris,
Will that include animations? I have pictures that I added animations to
and saved as a jpg.
thanks,
robin

[info_xatcom]

Hello Michael

>Is XATSHOW planning to add this little feature & when ??
Yes. The next version will allow this although images are renamed). It will be
in the next beta.

>If this will not be done in the near future - does anyone know a
>suitable CD IMAGE modifier program, so you can modify e.g. the CIF
>file manually (adding folders) before buring to VCD ?
Some users use VCD easy to rip apart xatshow cue/bins, add stuff and then burn
again.

>The possibility to mix various video formats together with slide
>show on 1 disc is a great feature - any plans by XATSHOW in this
The next beta will allow VCD MPEG1s to be added.

Chris.

[famdebraaf]

Chris - this is great news and I will be looking forward to these
enhancements. I appreciate some of the comments I picked up
with 'keeping original file information' which will be required
for 'true' archiving, however for sharing the raw data so that other
users can make print outs etc. it will work perfectly.
An additional comment and request for another function/feature: with
adding lots of additional data (JPGs, MPEG1s) it would be good to
have an idea whether the total package can still be burned on one
CD. E.g. before creating the CD image file give an indication of how
much of total CD capacity will be used....

regards, Michael

> Hello Michael
>
> >Is XATSHOW planning to add this little feature & when ??
> Yes. The next version will allow this although images are
renamed). It will be
> in the next beta.
>
> >If this will not be done in the near future - does anyone know a
> >suitable CD IMAGE modifier program, so you can modify e.g. the
CIF
> >file manually (adding folders) before buring to VCD ?
> Some users use VCD easy to rip apart xatshow cue/bins, add stuff
and then burn
> again.
>
> >The possibility to mix various video formats together with slide
> >show on 1 disc is a great feature - any plans by XATSHOW in this
> The next beta will allow VCD MPEG1s to be added.
>
> Chris.